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Hot68White Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2017
.Bendy Icon. Heart Heart Heart 
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PaleNative Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2016  Professional Digital Artist
While I'm not pleased to see yet ANOTHER naked woman wearing a headdress, I'm actually only take issue with people's disregard for having taken issue with the image in the first place. I love being told that, despite being native, I should feel honored or that this is somehow one's way of showing respect to a culture of people that continue to live in horrendous conditions.
Now, with that out of the way, and being familiar with your work, I still rather enjoy this. She's beautiful and I can take that to mean, as many artists attempt to explain, that is their view of the Native American culture. I sincerely hope that's what this is saying, at least that's how I read it. One would have to look through your portfolio to see the degree to which you apply your skill. It's not as if she's some naked broad lying on her back with a headdress on while a cowboy stands over her. It's tasteful. Is it appropriate, I'm on the fence even though I like it.
In most media a lot of culture tends to be whitewashed. Hollywood is the worst. So seeing a woman who many would assume is a not a Native American wearing what a chief would wear, it stings. We feel it as being whitewashed out of our own culture. I think that should serve as a fair explanation as to why some people feel that way. Again though, being familiar with your gallery, I can't find any reason enough for myself to be outraged with the image by itself. Personally, I kind of would like to see a set of this theme continued, or at least the model.
A heads up though, if you do another headdress shot, try and consider a native model for scene. There are so few of us in the media, it'd be a pleasant surprise.
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Avieshek Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yo
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abravewolf Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2014  Professional Photographer
Really cool, just everything. Lovely model, great makeup, awesome :D
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  Lauren's eyes are so wonderful in this one <3
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eportscreations Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
An excellent piece of work!
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coxao Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014  Professional Interface Designer
i loved this pic
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afro1879 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014  Professional Photographer
this pic is awesome!
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Tweef Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2014
Amaziiiiiiing :)
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grafmason Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
great image.
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Outof4mmo Featured By Owner May 28, 2014  Professional Digital Artist
My god this shot is gorgeous!
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NemesisGreatrex Featured By Owner May 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Beautiful picture, beautifully done.  Too many trolls and morons have the ability to type, nowhere near enough have the ability to think.  Ignore them, and be proud of this picture.
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Avieshek Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
When are you going for a Mac? There Pixelmator is truly marvellous.
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JaimeIbarra Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Professional Photographer
as soon as someone wants to buy me a mac, I'm down :)
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Avieshek Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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Forever-A-Sunflower Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I absolutely love this!
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enonorez Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Y.M.C.A.
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A-Coffe-Addict Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Great piece of art
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blackpadfoot713 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
This is exquisite.
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inbrainstorm Featured By Owner May 21, 2014
what the point to repost? its great anyway, but i don't understand.
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Great work by both the model and photographer. Beautiful tinting and theme, all the texture and elements look beautiful.
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JackaGlamour Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I love the portrait but I do think Native American culture is not some prop for a shoot. It's a wonderful photograph but the theme is cultural appropriation even if it's "artistic" cultural appropriation (which it is).
There's no reason to insult or to feel insulted, let's just call things by their name.

And writing a comment saying "I'm NA and I don't have a problem with this" doesn't make it ok. There will always be exceptions.

So... after all that: great work from Mr. Ibarra.
Not great theme, even though I look at it and drool because it's amazing work.
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jessmcalli Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Hobbyist
Boo-frigging-hoo. Get over it. I have no idea why, with all the soft porn and blatant garbage that is posted on this site, people jump down someone's throat when NA themed art is posted. It's ridiculous, and people need to stop whining about it. I'm irritated by the weirdos that post brony crap on here, but I don't crash their pages when they post it. 
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JackaGlamour Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Oh, don't boo-hoo-bullshit me. I didn't crashed Ibarra's page, I watch his work and that's how I saw this, I'm not randomly looking for things to complain about.
But you like to generalize, as I see. 
You have all the right to your opinion and so do I, get it?
You are the one who seems to be looking for comments that you can complain and get irritated by.

The very fact that you say "get over it" shows how little you understand about the matter.
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jessmcalli Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Hobbyist
I understand it just fine, thanks. Your opinion is just wrong, sorry. I too watch this poster. This isn't the first NA themed image the professional victims have swarmed in self-righteous outrage. Most of which aren't even Native American. So I'll say again, get over it. Don't like the picture, nobody is forcing you to partake. Just as I don't have to look at the plethora of horrible brony art that pollutes this site.
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JackaGlamour Featured By Owner May 24, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
How curious, I think your opinion is wrong! Either you didn't read my comment or you can't just get over youself to understand it.

I've been lucky enough not to come across brony things, but if I did, I would express my opinion about it too, 'cause... guess what? I too can do that.
So, if you don't like my opinion, ignore it, like you ignore the brony crap that you come across with.
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I understand you disagree with her and the whole 'anti-cultural appropriation' ect, but this is a bit much more hash and rude then necessary. Shouldn't that be save for people who are rude? There is value in people speaking out-- you disagree ok, say it then but you can be civil about it. It's not a good precedent to think of those you disagrees with should be out right silenced. :(
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jessmcalli Featured By Owner May 23, 2014  Hobbyist
It's exactly as harsh as it needs to be. I'll be civil as soon as these whiners keep their entitled, misinformed, professionally butthurt opinions in their vacuous heads. 
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 23, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
... there it is again you disagree thus someone has no right to say it. That's even more 'entitled' then what you are raging against.  Keep that up then sooner or later you will be silenced unfairly or others.  Not a rout a civilized and sane person would want. That mentality would have kept slavery and extreme racist prejudice going, and rule under kings ect, book burning and all. Let alone prevent a misguided people to realize their opinions are false/illogical in a proper debate. There is no growth from that. Truth of the matter the whole 'anti-cultural appropriation' movement was started in 'isolated environments' with out freedom of thought, these people are taught to think this way, silencing any other ideas. Have you ever seen the progressive/social justice Lectures?
 
 Seeking to silence freedom speech is never a good thing. That's how we are getting into this mess, only by telling the truth and forcing logical discussion will break it down.
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jessmcalli Featured By Owner May 23, 2014  Hobbyist
Oh please, this isn't about social justice, or freedom of speech. This about morons who have nothing better to do with their time than troll someone's page. Again, I don't like many types of art on this site. As much as I don't like them, I don't go to their creators page and spam them with rhetoric every time they post. Freedom of speech is nice and all, and just as you posit that they can say what they want, I can just as easily and freely call them out for their idiocy. 
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
one=*only I mean... T_T
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
How is it not okay to used inspiration of art styles? Are you going with one a person of a culture has the right to it's art?
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JackaGlamour Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I'm not talking about the artistic value of a photograph. I'm talking about cultural appropriation and that is using things that belong to another culture as props for a photograph. 
You can be inspired by many things, but taking a photograph with elements that are sacred for another culture is not the best way to honour such inspiration.
Maybe these text can explain it better (English is not my mother tongue :S):
lastrealindians.com/native-app…
quienesesachica.tumblr.com/pos…
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I know you are talking about cultural appropriation, but it still comes down to saying one can not be inspiration by art styles. An that is segregation of art for only one 'race' ect.
 Sure one may find it offense that something 'sacred' is referenced, but it really doesn't touch on the real object or belief or culture. All the time people work off of nuns, priests, warriors of culture and elliments of them, it's normal to enjoy and use our history as a 'whole' people. A culture is bron from that, all of them came from people sharing beliefs, idea, art and 'made' something from them. From past isolated ethnic groups to the modern era were everything can be shared. Noodles and tea are 'cultural appropriation' most of America is 'cultural appropriation' and 'integration' as so many came here.

 This photo and theme has no 'real' warbonnet in it, nothing of real native culture, it's only themed and referenced. All this 'negative' cultural appropriation is more people reacting to a 'trigger' of past crimes ignoring the precent. 90% of it by white people. No racist comment or ridicule to any native culture was made.
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JackaGlamour Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I understand what you say about inspiration. I've seen a lot of pieces that take references from Mexican culture to make art, lets say, about Frida Kahlo. And I don't see that as cultural appropriation.

I don't think the reaction is as a trigger of past crimes. When it comes to NA, we are talking about a culture that, still to this day, is marginalized. It's not just the past, it's the present. There is no real integration in America for NA.

To use a real warbonnet would be either a crime or really very expensive.
What some can consider a way to "honour" a culture, to some is just another way of people appropriating their culture.
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 22, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Cultural appropriation can be small or large references/inspiration, even if it doesn't seem offensive or acceptable to you it still if 'appropriation' of Mexican culture. Appropriation  noun:  incorporation by joining or uniting.

 Yes it is
marginalized, as they are segregated for the most part only on reservations and do not outreach/can't to the world. Continuing to keep it so and most importantly calling for it to be-- will not help but make it worse. Crying out and attacking cultural appropriation and NA theme art is perventing it from being not marginalized. It's pushing people away who are genuinely interested, even if it's juvenile or an amateur attempt. Instead of misguidedly accusing as insensitive or inappropriate appropriation, why not encourage people to learn about the real culture and embracing it? Because that is where it will go. NA culture is not going to be 'marginalized' worse from this. Even in fact racism will fade as they will lose ground on rationalizeing that NA culture is any different or less them them. Mimicry is how people learn to understand.
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andyfinder Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
i just love it <3
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ArcaneUnit Featured By Owner May 21, 2014
beautifully modest.
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JaimeIbarra Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
thank you.
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Tanice001 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014
lOVE iT! ^_~
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JaimeIbarra Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
:)
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Keyshe54 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Well said...

When cultures meet and interact there will always inspire and integrate/adopt, it's not prejudice on it's own, just what people do. We mimic and like art and beauty. I don't like this idea that unless 'cultures' are segregated it's disrespectful 'appropriation'

 More offen then not these 'appropriation' issues is more come down to it that it's a 'trigger' of horrible 'past' crimes. See a 'white person' being inspired by aspects of a culture and enjoying it when 'once' (and still some times) the origins of it were prosecuted.
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JaimeIbarra Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
Well said, sir...thank you for your intelligent viewpoint.
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JoshuaGraphic Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
typo: melting pot**

Not mixing. I want blueberry muffins...
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IanMildon Featured By Owner May 21, 2014  Professional Photographer
wonderful lighting and look to the image
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